Holy Cross

Back-to-back PL champs 2016 and 2017.... but need to get back to relevance in the national FCS scene.
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by ngineer » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:07 pm

The only time you would need alums to "pony up" would be to break precedent and buy-out a contract. Lehigh will not enter into the netherworld of creating slush funds to hire some 'name' coach. We don't need a 'name' coach. We need someone with a vision and background familiar with types of student-athletes Lehigh recruits and the ability to spot talent for both a quality staff and recruiting. Hopefully, the HC's contract ends this season and we walk away, as Lafayette did with Garrett (A good example of not falling for a 'name'). I would certainly think there are good candidates with solid background at recruiting and coaching the type of athletes we have at the FCS level. Coaching today requires a different approach than the 'neanderthal' times that spawned personalities like Gilmore. After today's exhibition and the comments made by the Coach that "we are not far off" despite the score is concerning. Either he is without a clue, or he's trying to gas light everyone. The number of penalties the team has been making, especially this late in the year, also shows the lack of coaching and/or discipline instilled. We have had a very proud tradition in the sport of football for most of the past 72 years, with exceptions of 1963-69, and now, 2018-22. I would like nothing more than having our guys get a fresh new start, next year with someone who can inspire them to excel.


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Re: Holy Cross

Post by LUEngineer » Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:34 pm

“Middle of the pack” for basketball under Reed has been an improvement for basketball at Lehigh historically.

Middle of the pack in Patriot League is not good enough for football with its tradition.

Middle of the pack is definitely unacceptable in wrestling where maintaining our Top 10 NCAA legacy is expected from its leadership.

So it depends on the sport with regard to Lehigh expectations from alumni. The question is what the administration expectations are versus that of its fans?
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by HFO » Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:24 pm

LEHIGH presidents for past 6 years have been quite content on being middle of the pack.
QS Global Ranking of Universities has LEHIGH around 540. Respectable, but not elite.
#511 Wayne State University, Michigan
#531 LEHIGH, Pennsylvania
#531 Oregon State University
#531 University of Delaware
#541 University of Tennessee

LEHIGH is not your grandfather's elite university. It has been run into the ground under Simon. We shall see if the new guy is just like the old guy. So far...NOT IMPRESSED.
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by DF2002 » Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:39 pm

HFO wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:24 pm LEHIGH presidents for past 6 years have been quite content on being middle of the pack.
QS Global Ranking of Universities has LEHIGH around 540. Respectable, but not elite.
#511 Wayne State University, Michigan
#531 LEHIGH, Pennsylvania
#531 Oregon State University
#531 University of Delaware
#541 University of Tennessee

LEHIGH is not your grandfather's elite university. It has been run into the ground under Simon. We shall see if the new guy is just like the old guy. So far...NOT IMPRESSED.

This is abominable. And unforgivable.
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by Sundayamqb » Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:14 pm

HFO wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:24 pm LEHIGH presidents for past 6 years have been quite content on being middle of the pack.
QS Global Ranking of Universities has LEHIGH around 540. Respectable, but not elite.
#511 Wayne State University, Michigan
#531 LEHIGH, Pennsylvania
#531 Oregon State University
#531 University of Delaware
#541 University of Tennessee

LEHIGH is not your grandfather's elite university. It has been run into the ground under Simon. We shall see if the new guy is just like the old guy. So far...NOT IMPRESSED.
What metrics are used for the rankings?
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by ngineer » Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:44 pm

All of these rankings are utter Bull... I've seen rankings having us listed as a "hidden Ivy", as a "highly competitive" schools to get in, one of the "top 50 national research universities"..etc, etc. The schools play with all sorts of figures and research out of Columbia blew the whistle on it's own administration for cooking numbers to help rankings either Forbes or US News pubs. American's are obsesses with rankings. There has to be a 'metric" for everything. :roll:
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by Richb-3 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:00 am

One Big part of ratings, after you get past the supe duper elites (HPY, MIT) is simply the number of majors available. Adding Golf Course Architecture would count just as much as nuclear fusion reactor construction.
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by Local82 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:38 pm

Third-party and media rankings:

When they’re good for you, you brag.

When they’re bad, you say they’re meaningless.

They often are meaningless.
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by Sundayamqb » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:38 am

Local82 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:38 pm Third-party and media rankings:

When they’re good for you, you brag.

When they’re bad, you say they’re meaningless.

They often are meaningless.
+1
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Re: Holy Cross

Post by Go Lehigh TU Owl » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:58 pm

The mainstream rankings absolutely matter from a first referenced, formed perspective standpoint. I believe they hold more credibility at the undergrad level strictly because that is the area prospective students/parents and alums focus on the most. The quality of graduate education is more "individually objective" given the personal nature of the academic work. Once you reach the doctoral level it's about relationships and joint mission that should drive one's decision; not which program is ranked higher.

Rankings aside, I have yet to comprehend why Lehigh does not expand their graduate offerings in order to position themselves closer to Duke, Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, Case-Western Reserve, Rice, and Vanderbilt. As currently constructed, Lehigh's current and/or aspirational peers are extremely limited.
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