Big Ten Issue

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Big Ten Issue

Post by Oracle » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:47 am

From reports, it appears Rutgers' facility (RAC- Rutgers Athletic Center) is inadequate for holding the Big Tens as they normally do....they do not have enough floor space without folding up a significant portion of their seating. We all remember when RU hosted EIWAs it was a weird mat configuration so why they didn't know that before now is a mystery. Fans from NY/NJ/PA alone would fill this arena so losing seats is a big faux pas. Too late to move it because tickets and reserved seating have been printed. A cluster but they will work it out I'm sure.


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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by jdalu75 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 am

It's New Jersey?

I figure they'd have to go with fewer mats; maybe start an hour earlier or something. The Big 10 has 14 teams and uses 6 mats, we have 17 and use 4; the should be able to manage. Part of that might be the facilities available -- Princeton could hold six mats but I don't know if any other school could host if the EIWA required six.

BTW, I met an NCAA ref at the local Y a couple of weeks ago and we got to talking about the tournaments and all. He'll be working the ACC tournament. He says they use two mats, with six referees, three assigned to each mat. Two refs work each bout and the third has downtime; I think he said they switch off after each bout, maybe two, so the refs have downtime frequently. One day and done. The benefit of a small conference.
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by mookie » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:58 am

It is entirely possible that the B1G could run the table and have a national champion at every weight.
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by jdalu75 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:11 am

That was always Gable's objective -- ten champs from Iowa. That counts as the b1g running the table, right?
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by Richb-3 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:41 am

There were 6 mats at Penn in 2014, the year there were 18 teams, Rutgers and Boston U and present schools.

Last time at Lehigh there were 6 mats. I guess basketball games both nights.

I don,t think B1G uses 6 mats, only 4. 1998 first time at PSU they only used 3 mats. With 14 teams they could still get by with 3 mats, although the weights with 9 or 10 qualifiers present a problem.

On the mat the other day i listed all the eiwa mat configs since 1967, but wasnt sure of rutgers. Was it not essentially T shaped like Bing last year?

Eiwa used 3 at FM with 16 teams but one less set of consolations
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by mookie » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 am

Best chance for a non B1G winner is the EIWA 4 seed at 197.
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by gimpeltf » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:47 am

I'm confused by it. I read somewhere 6 mats but the configuration map shows 4. However, it's not a square. Two mats across the center and one on either side making it 3 mat widths by two. In looking at the configuration there are these red dots in the corners. Pillars?
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by lu90 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:07 pm

mookie wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 am Best chance for a non B1G winner is the EIWA 4 seed at 197.
I'll take the field over the best Big Ten entries at 184 (#6 Brooks and #7 Caffey).
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by legger » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:50 pm

**** Agree, 184 is not an overly tough weight class in the B1G.
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Re: Big Ten Issue

Post by Richb-3 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:57 pm

jdalu75 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 am
BTW, I met an NCAA ref at the local Y a couple of weeks ago and we got to talking about the tournaments and all. He'll be working the ACC tournament. He says they use two mats, with six referees, three assigned to each mat. Two refs work each bout and the third has downtime; I think he said they switch off after each bout, maybe two, so the refs have downtime frequently. One day and done. The benefit of a small conference.
PIAA District 3: AA 35 schools 2 sections, AAA 57 Schools 4 sections. All operate with 3 mats, and 9 refs, Usually 3 will rotate on 1 mat, rotating after every bout. sometimes they go to different mats, just to change up.

District Tournaments. 3 mats for AA (12 guys per weigh) 4 Mats for AAA 16 guys per weight, Also 3 refs per mat.
How can EIWA get by without 10 refs, without 2 for every bout?

I assume EIWA, B1G, Big12, MAC are 4 mat tournaments, Pac 12 and ACC are 2 mat events, and So Conf is either 2 or 3 mats. so 22 or 23 mats. Are there 55 or 69 D1 officials
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