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Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:58 pm
by jdalu75
Richb-3 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:52 pm Did not the Wizard of Yoz have a Movie, A ook, and a song?
Don't know about that, but Toggas has parties named after him.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:52 pm
by Oracle
jdalu75 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:17 am
mookie wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:11 am Jon Trenge was the first Lehigh wrestler to reach 100 wins.
I'm sure that comes as a surprise to Pete Yozzo (101-13-3 lifetime record).
>>>>>>>> I read it as fastest to 100.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:56 pm
by drd5748
Nice to see Trenge appropriately in Top 10, probably deserves higher (but who's counting?)

I attended all 3 major open titles (2-Midlands; 1-Vegas) with some extra significance beating IA champion & 4x A/A Lee Fullhart. Post-grad, out of shape? Not exactly; one month after the Hawkeye upset Cael Sanderson in freestyle.

That upset was four months after Cael won Olympic gold (if all the online calendars used were correct).

Short of '01 DQ by eyes, Jon would have been joined Burley & Caruso as our only #1 seed 1st NCAAs; at Nat Duals he had 3 first pd TDs vs that year's NCAa 1st, Munoz - faded badly but won 11-9 s.v. with 1 of the most spectacular counters ever witnessed. OSU writing guru passed me mumbling "Munoz had BOTH legs" ... while true they allowed reaction time back then and Jon just exploded with the counter as if somebody threw a flare under his butt.

In addition to #1 Munoz, Jon beat the guys who placed 2,4,5 at '01 NCAAs. Two Midlands counters were equally spectacular vs Top 6 guys; the runnerup, Quick, IL had Jon dead to rights with a straight into the air bear hug; when I asked Jon how the ___ he countered for the two, it was my 1st time hearing the phrase: "I birded out ... you spread myself as wide as possible when he tried to flatten me." Another leg attempt saw Jon eject the guy off his legs and roll him under a scorer's table; wasn't happy at all with no TD.

2-0 W/L vs ncaa 3,1,1,1 Rosholt .... only God knows what he would have accomplished w/out goggles; he once said "by the 3rd period it's like driving in a rainstorm w/out windshield wipers" ... he accomplished a ton with them, despite needing his dad (and a NASA engineer) to make them since nothing existed on the market.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:30 pm
by Richb-3
Goggles are all but rare these days. I was working at elementary Tournament a lifetime ago- Feb 29 and there was a kid with goggles, but not headgear. I expect goggles just corrective lenses. What is the min age for contact lenses?

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:32 am
by mookie
9. Troy Letters

Had an injury not hampered his senior season Troy undoubtedly would have added to his already impressive resume. Nevertheless he was a three-time All-American (2,1,3) and three-time EIWA champion. Troy was a pinner and a winner. He was the NCAA runner-up at 165 pounds in 2003 as a freshman. In 2004, Troy won the NCAA title at 165 by defeating the only wrestler to beat him during the regular season, Oklahoma State’s Tyrone Lewis, 5-2, in the finals. Troy placed third at the 2005 NCAA's losing in the semis to Iowa's 2x champ Mark Perry.

Troy had a career record of 115-9 with 31 falls and a dual meet record of 65-2. He was 97-4 prior to his senior season.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:23 am
by jdalu75
drd5748 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:56 pm Jon would have been joined Burley & Caruso as our only #1 seed 1st NCAAs
If I catch your meaning (since I don't seem to understand there's no difference between first and fastest), Burley was #2 seed at his first NCAA tournament in 1979.

I always thought that the googles cost Trenge something. Maybe in 2001 he was just in a weight class without Hahn and Sanderson, but it seemed like he lost a little after he needed the goggles.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:53 pm
by BP-LU87
Letters was an awesome technician who has quite a bit of videos out there demonstrating such, especially his crab ride series. One version of that led to the 2 backs that he got against Lewis when he won NCAAs.

https://youtu.be/Tu1TO_ZtjsY

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:34 am
by mookie
8. Ben Bishop

Different eras mean uneven standards by which to judge, and what might have statistically constituted an All-American season years ago might not even draw all-conference attention nowadays.

So in order to select the top 10 of all time, there are a number of different variables to be considered, consequently, in order to make this list, one had to have done something so impressive that he was impossible to ignore. Ben earned the NCAA Outstanding Wrestler Award in 1934 as Lehigh’s second national champion. Ben skipped the 1932 NCAAs in Indiana to win National AAUs in Madison Square Garden, beating the Navy’s best post-grad and a top European and then placed third at the Olympic Trials behind an NCAA 1st and 3rd.

Ben was undefeated in duals his final two seasons. His sole EIWA loss was the ’33 finals to Princeton’s “Hody” Hooker, which Ben avenged twice in ’34 by fall. In Bishop’s first Nationals he lost to Alan Kelley (NCAA 1,1, Oklahoma State) and Foy Stout of Southwest Oklahoma (2,3). Ben’s undefeated senior year featured more revenge -- pinning Stout in the finals to earn OW. In the semis, Bishop beat 1936 Olympic champ, Frank Lewis, Oklahoma State (NCAA 2,1), with the only takedown. At the Olympic Trials, Bishop again placed third but became the alternate.

A friend of my family BEN BISHOP, was Lehigh and Bethlehem royalty.

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:50 am
by Mountain Hawk
Feeling Drew Kaiser coming up shortly

Re: Top 10 Lehigh Wrestlers All Time

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:17 am
by D3 for LU
Keiser.
That may be on another upcoming list, I figure... leggs may fill in the rest for added color. ;)
D3
(I only saw him, when he won the EIWA's in 1980... First time @ Stabler.)