Caruso 3rd String?

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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by Oracle » Fri May 01, 2020 2:49 pm

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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by gimpeltf » Fri May 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Oracle wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 2:49 pm Actually, what I'm smokin isn't nearly as good as what you're smokin
You're simply denying the obvious. The old 118s became the new 125s. We didn't suddenly have a bunch of kids without a weight class. Sure, there were always a few Weavers but you keep ignoring that the 118s wrestled. The 125s weren't the old 126s they were the old 118s. So your argument is completely fallacious.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by jdalu75 » Fri May 01, 2020 4:45 pm

This happened in 1998 -- the NCAA added seven pounds to each weight class and took away things like saunas, rubber suits, and overnight recovery time. It happened during the season; I don't remember any 134-pounders suddenly turning into 133s.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by Asa Packer » Fri May 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Sorry, Oracle, I'm with Gimp on this. Perhaps a visual will help.
Old school weight classes: 118, 126, 134, 142, 150, 158, 167, 177, 190, UNL
Present day: 125, 133, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197, 285.
Thus 133 & 134 are different classes; as are 141 & 142, 149 & 150, 157 & 158.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by Oracle » Sat May 02, 2020 10:46 am

Like I said, I'm not that smart.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by lu_alum » Sun May 03, 2020 4:55 pm

Here's what I posted on TheMat in response to the article initially posted by Flo:

Burley's best season was his senior year. To properly account for weight classes from the 1950s to present day, this is more representative:
115/118/125: Gene Mills
123/126/133: Mike Caruso
130/134/141: Mike Frick
137/142/149: Darryl Burley
147/150/157: Jordan Burroughs
157/158/165: Donny Pritzlaff
167/167/174: Myles Martin (he was better at 184, but won a title here & can't beat Campbell)
177/177/184: Chris Campbell
191/190/197: Damion Hahn
UNL/Hwt/285: Steve Mocco
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by lu_alum » Sun May 03, 2020 5:04 pm

jdalu75 wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 4:45 pm This happened in 1998 -- the NCAA added seven pounds to each weight class and took away things like saunas, rubber suits, and overnight recovery time. It happened during the season; I don't remember any 134-pounders suddenly turning into 133s.
The mid-season rule change forbade individuals from making the 134-to-133 move that you suggest.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by whiz wit » Sun May 03, 2020 5:05 pm

Oracle wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 10:46 am Like I said, I'm not that smart.
Oracles have prescience. Brains are a different matter.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by gimpeltf » Sun May 03, 2020 5:26 pm

lu_alum wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 5:04 pm
jdalu75 wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 4:45 pm This happened in 1998 -- the NCAA added seven pounds to each weight class and took away things like saunas, rubber suits, and overnight recovery time. It happened during the season; I don't remember any 134-pounders suddenly turning into 133s.
The mid-season rule change forbade individuals from making the 134-to-133 move that you suggest.
I was talking more about going into the next year.
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Re: Caruso 3rd String?

Post by lu_alum » Sun May 03, 2020 5:41 pm

gimpeltf wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 5:26 pm
lu_alum wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 5:04 pm
jdalu75 wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 4:45 pm This happened in 1998 -- the NCAA added seven pounds to each weight class and took away things like saunas, rubber suits, and overnight recovery time. It happened during the season; I don't remember any 134-pounders suddenly turning into 133s.
The mid-season rule change forbade individuals from making the 134-to-133 move that you suggest.
I was talking more about going into the next year.
I was responding to jdalu75, which aligned with the point you made earlier.
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