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Re: EIWA

Post by jdalu75 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:18 pm

One thing I'm concluding is ... don't trust W-L records this year. Or, trust them less than usual. First, every bout wrestled by an EIWA guy this year was against a Div I opponent; but teams were looking to wrestle anyone close that had an open date, so a lot of the matchups wouldn't happen in a more normal year. Then there are teams (Navy is a good example) that worked in a lot of extra bouts for their starters. So the starter wrestled the opposing team's starter and backup the same day. A 4-1 record turns into a 7-1 record and looks more impressive.

There were very few bouts against CP-ranked opponents. Here's how that looks, for whatever it's worth.

125: Chauvin 0-3, Roes 1-0, Seidman 0-1, Waterman 0-2, Lane 2-0, Cockrell 0-2, Treaster 0-1.
133: Montgomery 1-0, Miller 1-0, Hines 0-1, Matthews 0-1, Allen 0-2, Randall, 0-1.
141: Peters 0-1, Trampe 0-1, Phipps 0-2, McGonagle 0-3, Witham 0-1, Trybus 2-0.
149: PJ 2-0, Kolonia 0-1, Nichter 1-0, Hoffman 1-3, Cobb 2-0.
157: Hartman 0-1, Barker 0-1, Delp 0-2, Heller 2-0, Frinzi 0-1, Royster 0-2, Palumbo 0-1.
165: The Other Hartman 1-0, Meyer 0-2, Ferro 0-1, Skidgel 0-1, Schmidt 0-3.
174: O'Malley 2-0, McFarland 0-1, Logan 0-2.
184: Brown 0-2, The Third DePrez 2-0, Guida 0-1, Stillings 0-1, Small 0-1, Langan 0-1, Key 1-0.
197: Another Brown 1-1, The Fourth DePrez 0-2, McCready 0-3, Rogers 0-1, Jakobsen 1-3, Franden 0-4, Koser 1-2.
285: Heald 1-2, Crosby 0-2, Z K-W 0-1, Wood 1-1, Nagosky 0-3, Birchmeier 1-0, Blokh 0-1.

Not trying to knock guys; it's just in this season there wasn't much opportunity to wrestle stronger opposition.

So who do you like? A guy who's 5-1 but 0-1 against ranked guys, or a guy who's 2-3 but 1-2 against ranked guys? Hint: there's no right answer.


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Re: EIWA

Post by legger » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:03 pm

**** When do we anticipate the Pre Seeds will come out?
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Re: EIWA

Post by jdalu75 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:32 pm

legger wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:03 pm **** When do we anticipate the Pre Seeds will come out?
As with everything else, things are a little different this year. I'm hoping to have all the ballots from the pre-seed committee tonight. The coaches are meeting tomorrow afternoon to discuss, challenge, submit replacements, etc. So I'm not going to release anything until after the coaches have their say tomorrow; I don't see any sense wasting time on a release tonight when it's just going to change in 18 hours.
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Re: EIWA

Post by LU in the Hub » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:38 pm

Richb-3 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:52 pm Except for 141, might be the best we could expect
Did I miss something? Why isn't Brandon Paetzell wrestling?
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Re: EIWA

Post by jdalu75 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:47 pm

LU in the Hub wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:38 pm
Richb-3 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:52 pm Except for 141, might be the best we could expect
Did I miss something? Why isn't Brandon Paetzell wrestling?
We don't know.
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Re: EIWA

Post by lu_alum » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:01 pm

jdalu75 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:47 pm
LU in the Hub wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:38 pm
Richb-3 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:52 pm Except for 141, might be the best we could expect
Did I miss something? Why isn't Brandon Paetzell wrestling?
We don't know.
Multiple choice:
A. The two-class jump was too much
B. McG beat him for the spot
C. Both A and B
D. Neither A nor B
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Re: EIWA

Post by whiz wit » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:10 pm

Current info as to starting time, any breaks and, if so, when and their duration, and finishing time?
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Re: EIWA

Post by legger » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:14 pm

**** If he can make 133 but not 125, maybe: d) cannot beat Hines or e) dinged up in practice other and unable to go or f) dinged up and could be a last minute Replacement at the seeding meeting if he has recovered.
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Re: EIWA

Post by Spladle1989 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:01 pm

I have a feeling from what I’ve read that Paetzell is a man without a home.....can’t make 125, can’t beat Hines at 133 and can’t beat McGonagle at 141 .... 141 is a big weight jump for him, you could see it against the UNC wrestler with his inability to finish shots and inability to hold top position at all....
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Re: EIWA

Post by gimpeltf » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:07 pm

Brandon wasn't eligible for 133 after his one weigh in.
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