EIWAs Pre Seeds

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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by 1/2NELSON » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:58 pm

Are we SURE that Stanich, and Crookham will be participating OR being saved for next season? :o :lol:


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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by JAD77 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:58 pm

FloridaGuy wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:16 pm >>>>>>>> About what I anticipated for Lehigh and cu. Some really good bouts to look forward to.
Without looking up results, I think Griffin at #3 is a bit of a surprise. Not a bad one though :)
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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by Richb-3 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:24 pm

Connor Herceg got a favorable seed, 15. If he beats Incontera in the first round, great. If he loses he gets a pigtail consolation against the loser of 16-17.

Wilt has a Key bout at first. If he and Logan win first bouts, they certainly seem likely placers.
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Post by whiz wit » Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:34 pm

Richb-3 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:24 pm Connor Herceg got a favorable seed, 15. If he beats Incontera in the first round, great. If he loses he gets a pigtail consolation against the loser of 16-17.

Wilt has a Key bout at first. If he and Logan win first bouts, they certainly seem likely placers.
You must be kidding. Herceg dominated the #8 from Cornell and easily beat Squires, who's seeded ahead of him. He had some bad losses but I think he got screwed.
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Post by Oracle » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:10 am

IDK, the pre-seeds look pretty good to me. Why is anyone complaining about Kluever at #3? Should we just forget about those falls over Fernandes and Stoddard? A win is a win, whether in November or February.

I certainly like Griffin at #6. If he does a better job of protecting his legs he could make the finals. Let's face it, you want to get to NCAAs when you are lower seeded, you have to beat a few guys above you so who cares what your seed is after the last qualifying spot?

Our guys will either come into this tournament to fight, or lay down. No half measures. That's why I like Wilt's chances -- he's a fighter. Herceg is a cement lugger (albeit at 165) but still has enough horse that no one should sleep on him. He doesn't match up with Incontrera, so his chances will come on the backside, IMO.

Feel good about Griffin and Hines vs Navy in semis. Max vs Penn a coin toss. Should be fun.

Not understanding mookie's statement RE: 133. He's under not any obligation to explain himself.
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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by jdalu75 » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:00 am

Oracle wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:10 am
I certainly like Griffin at #6.
Griffin is pre-seeded 3rd. He was 6th in the last EIWA rankings (not sure what those are based on). If he makes the semis he'll probably meet the winner of a Williams/Smith quarterfinal. Williams has beaten Griffin twice this year, but he lost a major to Smith in the Star Dual. Smith beat Reinsel by a point in our dual with Navy.


Paths to best anticipated finish. I think six or seven finalists is possible.

125 -- #1 Stanich
Prelim: winner of 16Howe/17McLellan
1/4: winner of 8Heethuis/9Pleasant
1/2: prob winner of 4Maida/5Berginc
F: prob winner of 2Ungar/3Sotelo

133 -- #1 Crookham
Prelim: winner of 16Adrian/17Francois
1/4: winner of 8Rini/9Roes
1/2: prob winner of 4Phipps/5Leiphart
F: prob winner of 2Arujau/3Colaiocco

141 -- #3 Hines
Prelim: 14Oswalt
1/4: winner of 6Matthews/11Lucier
1/2: prob winner of 2Cornella/7Chappell
F: prob winner of 1Koderhandt/4Composto

Koderhandt: 2-2 vs Hines; 0-1 vs Cornella; has never faced Composto
Cornella: 1-1 vs Hines; 1-0 vs Koderhandt; has never faced Composto
Hines: 1-1 vs Cornella; 2-2 vs Koderhandt; 2-0 vs Composto
Composto: 0-2 vs Hines (both this year); has never faced Koderhandt or Cornella

Cornella is the defending EIWA champ
Hines is a past EIWA champ, NCAA R12, the only one who has beaten the other three top contenders
Koderhandt is a past EIWA 2nd (133, in 2022)
Composto is a past EIWA 2nd and NCAA 8th

149 -- #3 Griffin
Prelim: 14Hillard
1/4: winner of 6Crook/11Nies
1/2: prob winner of 2Williams/7Smith
F: prob winner of 1Fernandez/4Swisher

157 -- #3 Brignola
Prelim: 14Royster (can't look past Royster; a very good 14th seed)
1/4: winner of 6Clark/11Williams
1/2: prob winner of 2Revano/7Harrington
F: prob winner of 1Shapiro/4Lukez

165 -- #7 Logan
Prelim: 10Slotnick
1/4: winner of 2Cassella/15Rothrock
1/2: prob winner of 3Cerniglia/6Walsh
F: prob winner of 1Ramirez/4Mulvaney

174 -- #15 Herceg
Prelim: 2Incontrera
cons pigtail: loser of 16Connolly/17Ayotte
1st cons: loser of 7Takats/10McFarland
2nd cons: prob loser of 4Pasiuk/5Wask
too messy to predict after this

184 -- #9 Wilt
Prelim: 8Key
1/4: prob 1Foca
2nd cons: prob winner of 11Tarantino/14Perez
1/4 cons: prob winner of 5Ayzerov/10D'Alesio
1/4 cons: prob loser of 2Conway/3Dugan
too messy to predict after this

197 -- #1 Beard
Prelim: winner of 16Trovato/17Quinton
1/4: winner of 8Deceatis/9Dusza
1/2: prob winner of 4Stout/5Urbas
F: prob winner of 2Cardenas/3DePrez

285 -- #1 Taylor
Prelim: winner of 16Shapiro/17Berisha
1/4: winner of 8Cover/9Stout
1/2: prob winner of 4Kluever/5Fernandes
F: prob winner of 2Day/3Griess
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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by FloridaGuy » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:24 am

>>>>>>> Excellent summary by JDA. Hope Griffen stays 3rd seed——- he has a good chance to punch his ticket to the NCAAs.
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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by jdalu75 » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:26 pm

133 -- #1 Crookham
Prelim: winner of 16Adrian/17Francois -- Sulayman Bah replaced Rini; he may wind up here
1/4: winner of 8Roes/9Hildebrandt -- assuming they both get bumped up one spot
1/2: prob winner of 4Phipps/5Leiphart
F: prob winner of 2Arujau/3Colaiocco


165 -- #7 Logan
Prelim: 10Slotnick -- he probably got promoted to #9 seed with Kim out; #11 seed James Johnston of LIU probably slots in here.
1/4: winner of 2Cassella/15Rothrock -- Rothrock probably bumped up, but Cassella will be the winner.
1/2: prob winner of 3Cerniglia/6Walsh
F: prob winner of 1Ramirez/4Mulvaney
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Re: EIWAs Pre Seeds

Post by gimpeltf » Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:38 pm

jdalu75 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:26 pm 133 -- #1 Crookham
Prelim: winner of 16Adrian/17Francois -- Sulayman Bah replaced Rini; he may wind up here
1/4: winner of 8Roes/9Hildebrandt -- assuming they both get bumped up one spot
1/2: prob winner of 4Phipps/5Leiphart
F: prob winner of 2Arujau/3Colaiocco


165 -- #7 Logan
Prelim: 10Slotnick -- he probably got promoted to #9 seed with Kim out; #11 seed James Johnston of LIU probably slots in here.
1/4: winner of 2Cassella/15Rothrock -- Rothrock probably bumped up, but Cassella will be the winner.
1/2: prob winner of 3Cerniglia/6Walsh
F: prob winner of 1Ramirez/4Mulvaney
Bah went to 17th seed. 0-7 at 133. everyone from 9-12 bumped to 8-16.
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