Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by Richb-3 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:03 pm

17 teams in the league. everyone should get to host once every 17 years. However if Harvard, Brown, American etc don't want to host, or can't due to no adequate facility, they can pass it back to one of the more established facilities, Lehigh, Penn, Bucknell, Princeton. Princeton seems best to have five mats in M formation.

interesting that all 17 teams had ten (or did I miss something. 220 bouts the first day-100 the second.

Big 10 has 260 total matches, not counting wrestlebacks for 9-12. (I assume that blood round losers are in that, not the other 2 guys. (have they had more than 10 in a weight) so up to 290. there are 60 matches Sunday + the 9th place semis and finals.

we ran 44 bouts per mat Saturday. B1G 50 per mat Saturday But since they only one run session Saturday, that extra 1 hour on Saturday not a stressor.


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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by gimpeltf » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:26 pm

Harvard dropped their 133 the night before.
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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by Lehighsam » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:48 pm

MOHEGAN SUN ARENA AT CASEY PLAZA would be a great place.
No team would have to travel more than 220 miles to Wilkes Barre.
Lower bowl - reserved seats at usual EIWA prices
Upper bowl - general admission ($10/ session, $5/ student)
Free parking
Approach Mohegan Sun Casino for sponsorship: I believe they hosted
NCAA basketball in the fall at their CONNECTICUT arena.
Numerous hotels/restaurants within 5 miles.
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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by drd5748 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:35 pm

>>>Never again will I make that trip for EIWA’s…..I like Ithaca, Cornell, the campus etc….. but that set up is amateur hour….. feels like a glorified high school gym….. restroom situation was ridiculous, no concessions, extremely limited seatback seating, bad sight lines etc….

... Sheesh, I'm really glad I had to cancel my bus outing for medical reasons and managed to enjoy most of Flo coverage, despite a 3 am Sun trip to the hospital (turned out to be "just shingles" vs the feared kidney stones or gall bladder.
p.s. recommend the shingles vaccine which I had, since it lessens the severity even while not preventing them. Stunningly painful at times, even then a complete nuisance.
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Post by Lehighsam » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:38 pm

drd5748 wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:35 pm p.s. recommend the shingles vaccine which I had, since it lessens the severity even while not preventing them. Stunningly painful at times, even then a complete nuisance.
After my better half came down with "the shingles". I apologized to a co-worker who had missed a couple of weeks due to "bad" case. Until you see the misery, you don't realize pain that shingles can inflict. If you are really stupid about not getting the shingles vaccine, please suffer in SILENCE. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by drd5748 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:10 pm

Sorry to hear she got it ... my buddy Paul Wagner '57 got it while stressed over Marilyn's decline; I knew it itched but he never mentioned the occasional god-awful pain. Saw my personal doc today and she blessedly prescribed Gabapentin, an anti-convulsant which acts as pain reliever; unbelievably helpful. I had postponed taking the shots for it until 4-6 mo ago, an incredibly lucky move since I cannot imagine having any more discomfort w/out vax.
Also had no idea how serious the complications from it can be; we lost one of our forum posters after it triggered other reactions. But most 'simply' suffer 'normally'; a real bear
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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by jdalu75 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:48 pm

Richb-3 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:03 pm
interesting that all 17 teams had ten (or did I miss something. 220 bouts the first day-100 the second.
Harvard didn't have a 133-pounder. 169 entries.
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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by jdalu75 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:55 pm

Richb-3 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:03 pm 17 teams in the league. everyone should get to host once every 17 years. However if Harvard, Brown, American etc don't want to host, or can't due to no adequate facility, they can pass it back to one of the more established facilities, Lehigh, Penn, Bucknell, Princeton. Princeton seems best to have five mats in M formation.
Schools submit bids to host the tournament; no one's preventing them from doing that. The conference encourages multiple bids and has tried to get out of the Lehigh-Navy-somebody else rotation that we'd been in awhile. Hard to believe that when Princeton hosted in 2012 it was the first time in 25 years. The teams need the facilities and the willingness to host. In 2017-19 Bucknell hosted for just the second time; Hofstra and Binghamton for the first time each. So new venues have been added. I'm concerned that if five mats are going to be required going forward it will take potential hosts out of the picture. I suppose Stabler can manage five, but only by reducing seating capacity.
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Re: Cornell as a location for EIWA’s

Post by Richb-3 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:39 am

II just ran the numbers. It looks like if we were to close the blue seats on either the North or South side of Stabler (not both.) we would have a rectangular area of 142' 7". by 88' 4". Let's say we close the south side lower bleachers:

Put a one row 80' by 6' 7" head table at the East end, where there are no Blue seats. On the North side put three 42' square mats with 32' circles. that would leave 2' from the head table to mat 3, and 2' from mat 1 the West end bleachers. Then put mats 4 + 5. abutting mats 1,2,3 but 14' from each other and 14' from the ends of mats 1,5.Use seven vertical mats to protect where mats are closest to seats- tables. all scorer tables on the south side, the table for mats 1 & 3 would not be a right angle, but that is OK.

Even if no seats are sold on the south side, there are over 3500 seats with good site line. (the site line from east end to mat 1 might not be great, but ok.

More protection could be gained by closing the lower 3 rows of blue seats on the north and west. (basketball closes the lower rows of north and south blue seats.

Another way to gain safety is to use mats 4-5 with 2-3 feet of the boundary area abutting mats 1,2,3. We should still have ten feet between wrestling circles.
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